2:3 Golding of Suffolk
Thomas “of Poslingford” Golding
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Thomas “of Poslingford” Golding, the son of Roger Golding of Grey’s Cavendish and Alice Upcher was born about 1490 and he died in 1575 in Suffolk, England. In about the year 1510 He married Katherine Gosnold and it is through her that his line of the Golding family becomes involved in the plans of the Gosnolds to establish an English colony in Virginia.
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Katherine and her sister Joan were both the daughters of Robert Gosnold of Otley by his first wife Agnes, the daughter of John Hill of Ashe Bocking and were the aunts of Anthony Gosnold of Grundisburgh.(2-3) They were married respectively to Thomas Golding of Poslingford, County Suffolk and John Golding of Belchamp, County Essex, brothers and sons of Robert (or Roger) Golding of Grays, Suffolk. Joane Gosnold was still living in 1591 and had remarried a man named Brymeley, probably John Brymeley who appears as witness to her son's will. (Lea, 1902)
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Otley Hall, the home of the Gosnold family of Suffolk
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Thomas Golding of Poslingford left a will and in it he names the following people:
George - son - leaves land in the tenure of John Howe
Roger - son - Was left land in Suffolk and was left Belchamp St Paul's in Essex, also land in Essex in tenure of Thomas Brewster
Thomas - son - He had a son named Thomas - given land in Cavendish in the tenure of Richard Roote
John - son - land in Glemsford
Henry - son - rec'd 149 li
Alice – The daughter of Thomas’s brother George entrusted to find her a house plus rec'd 5 lb for life. Rec'd all household furnishings, her husband was Edward Byke, dec'd. They had (4) children George, Alice, Katherine and Edward. In the will Thomas Golding tells George to be “more diligent at his studies”.
Anne - daughter - rec'd money
Warde - son in law, married to Joane Golding. She was deceased by 1575.
Gridley - son in law, married to dau dec'd
Unnamed daughter married Strutte, had children named Margaret, Margery, Matthew and Grace
Thomas Boram - godson
Others named: Davy Edwards, Elizabeth Carlton, Hugh (?), Thomas Coward, Kathrine Crane, William Stable, George Stable, John Castrete, John Sergent.
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The full text of the will of Thomas of Poslingford Golding is recorded in Lea’s 1902 publication Gosnold and Bacon: The ancestry of Bartholomew Gosnold as are many of the wills of the Golding and Gosnold Family, including the will of Robert Goldinge of Belchamp. This book is available for download on archives.org and it is an exhaustive resource of information about both the Golding and the Gosnold families. On page 24 of that book is reference in the Will of James Bacon, citizen and fishmonger of London to “Goodman Goldinge” of Hornechurch.
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Will of Thomas Goldinge of Poslingforde (Lea, 1902)
County Suffolk Dated 4 August 1575.
To son George my messuage in Glemsford called Pannetts, with the land both free and copyhold, now in tenure of John Howe, provided said George release unto Roger Golding my son, & unto Thomas Golding, the son of my son Thomas, all his title to the lands 1 have given to the said Roger and Thomas.
To the said Roger my son all my lands, free and copyhold, in Clare, County Suffolk and Assham & Belchamp St. Pauls in County Essex, also portion of title in Clare & Assham late belonging to the late College of Stoke next Clare ; except the tithe of one parcel of ground in Kolye hall, which the said George hath now in occupying.
To Thomas, son of my said son Thomas, I give all my copyhold land in Cavendysh, that is to say Fatous Copy & Goosewent Coppie, now in the tenure of Richard Roote ; except one parcel lying under Mr. Colt's park pale, in the occupying of my son Roger, which I give to my son George. To my son John my messuage and land purchased of John Pettywatt in Glemsford & a messuage there in tenure of Brede.
To son Henry 140 li. To dan. Alice 20 li. and my son George shall enter bond to find her a convenient dwelling house and annuity of £5 for her life. To son Roger two pieces of ground in Pentlowe, co. Essex, in tenure of Thomas Brewster, and four butchers' stalls in Sudbury, County Essex, charged with an annuity of 4 li. to my daughter Alice, and 40s. to my daughter Anne and during lives of my said two daughters he shall pay 20s. yearly to the poor of Cavendish and the rest of the profits to be equally parted among my sons and daughters' children now living ; after death of said daughters to remain to said son Roger and his heirs. To my said daughter Alice all household stuff as was her late husband Edward Byke's.
To the children of the aforesaid Alice, namely George and Alice, 61i. 13s. 4d, and to Katherine and Edwarde 31i. 6s. 8d. at their several marriages or ages of 21. Moreover to said George 61i. 13s. 4d. more if he be diligent at his book and studious by the space of one year after my decease. To my daughter Anne 10 li. To every one of my son Warde's children which he had by my daughter 31i. 6s. 8d. and a bed at their ages of 21 or marriage, and the like to every one of my son Gridley's children which he had by my daughter. To my daughter Strutte's children, Margarett, Margery, Matthewe & Grace, 40s. apiece at 21 or marriage.
To every one of my godchildren being duly proved and required 3s. 4d. To godson Thomas Boram 20s. on his marriage. To Davy Edwardes IDs. To Elizabeth Carlton 10s. To Hugh 6s. 8d. To Thomas Cowarde & Katherine Crane 6s. 8d. each. To William Stable and George Stable 10s. each. To John Cawstrete the younger and John Sergent 6s. 8d. each at marriage. All debts, wools, yarns and broadcloth equally between sons George and Roger. Witn : Richarde Fytche, Thomas Goldinge, Anthonye Carter & Henry Goldinge. Pro. 4 Dec. 1575 by the Exors. named, P. C. C, Pyckeryng, 48 Lea, 1902, p. 17)
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James Bacon, fishmonger is discussed in the section that deals specifically with the Bacon family of Suffolk and Virginia.
The will was witnessed by Richard Fytche, Thomas Goldinge, Anthony Carter and Henry Golding and was probated in December of 1575. The document also gives some indication regarding the occupation of Thomas of Poslingford because he leaves “wools, yarns and broadcloth” to his sons George and Roger, indicating that like the rest of this Suffolk family he was involved in the clothmaking business and must have been a weaver. George, Roger and Thomas Golding were probably the eldest sons. (Lea, 1902, p. 24)
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Thomas Golding and Katherine Gosnold
Thomas "of Poslingford" Golding and Katherine Gosnold had the following children:
i. Joane Golding (2) was born about 1510 (4). She died before 1575, probably in Suffolk, England because her husband John Ward is named in the will of Thomas Golding but Joane his daughter is listed as deceased.
ii. Alice Golding was born about 1510 (5) and was named as the will of her father Thomas of Poslingford. "Alice - dau – her brother George entrusted to find her a house plus rec'd 5 lb for life” She received all of the household furnishings and her husband was Edward Byke, who was deceased by 1575. Alice Golding and Edward Byke had (4) children and their names were George, Alice, Katherine and Edward. In his will, Thomas Golding tells his grandson George to be “more diligent at his studies”.
iii. Henry Golding was born about 1510 and he died sometime after 1575. Nothing more is known about him except for the fact that his father Thomas left him money in his will: “Henry – son – rec’d 149 li”
iv. Rose Golding was born about 1510. She died before 1575 in Suffolk, England because she must be the unnamed daughter who was married to “Grindley – son in law, married to daughter deceased”. She married Unknown Gridley. He was born about 1510.
v. Thomazin Golding was born about 1510 and she died before 1575 in Suffolk, England. She married John Strutt sometime before 1575 and they had four (4) children named Margaret, Margery, Matthew and Grace Golding. Thomazin is not identified by name in the will of her father, but is only referred to as “daughter married Sturtte” (the name is actually Strutt, and the family intermarried with the Golding family on several occasions).
vi. Anne Golding was born about 1510. She died after 1575 because she is named in the 1575 will and received money “Anne – dau – rec’d money”. She married Thomas Warner.
vii. Roger Golding was born about 1520. He died after 1575 because he was named in his father’s will and rec’d land in Suffolk.
viii. George “of Poslingford” Golding was born in 1540 in Poslingford, Suffolk, England (6). He died on 20 Nov 1584 in Poslingford, Suffolk, England. He married Eleanor Gray, the daughter of Sir Henry Gray about 1560 in Suffolk, England. She was born about 1510.
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It is uncertain exactly who the father of Eleanor Gray who married George "of Poslingford" Golding was but Parliament online records a Sir Henry Gray, born 23 April 1490 who married Anne Blennerhasset, and members of the Blennerhasset family married into the Golding family as in the case of John Blennerhasset, the son of Sir Thomas Blennerhasset who married Elizabeth Cornwallis of Broome Hall, Oatley, Suffolk and his sister Katherine Blennerhasset (born in 1510) who married John "of Shryblond" Gosnold. Anne Blennerhasset was supposedly the daughter of John Blennerhasset and Jane Tyndale and Henry Gray, if he was indeed the correct father for Eleanor Gray was the son of the 2nd Earl of Kent by his second wife and assumed the title of 4th Earl of Kent and 7th Baron Grey of Ruthyn. The notes taken from a history of his family by the 2nd Earl of Grey in 1846 reads "According to le Neve, Elizabeth, the wife of Thomas, earl of Surry, the victor of Flodden in a letter says that Henry de Gray fought at Flodden and was taken prisoner by the Scots but was afterwards exchanged." (The Earls of Kent, n.d.)
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This source states that Henry married Anne, the daughter of John Blennerhasset of Southill and that they had a son and three daughters, but the names of the daughters are not given. Their son Henry married Margery, the daughter of Sir John Saint John of Bletsoe and he died in 1545. Their three sons became Earl of Kent.
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(3) George Golding is named in the 1577 Visitation of Suffolk and the names of his children are given in that survey.
Henry II “of Gray’s Inn” Golding died in about the year 1593.
(8) Henry II "of Gray's Inn" Golding - The other son of George Golding and Eleanor Gray was Henry II Golding. He died in 1593 (6). Some information about him was published in the History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1558-1603, ed P.W. Hasler, 1981. He is listed as the 1st son of George Golding of Poslingford and Cavendish by Eleanor the daughter of Sir Henry Gray of Wrest, Bedfordshire. He was educated at St. John's, Cambridge and matriculated in 1567. If the identification of this member is correct, the source states, he was a younger relative of Henry Golding I whose half-sister Margery married first the 16th Earl of Oxford and secondly Charles Tyrell, a gentleman pensioner whose mother was a daughter of an earlier Lord Mountjoy.
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The Mountjoys were joint lords of Callington with successive marquesses of Winchester and William, 7th Lord Mountjoy presumably nominated his distant relative for the borough. Golding's father may have assigned him property in Suffolk but the only reference found to him in the county records is in 1573 when George and Henry Golding were called upon to show by what title they held the rectory of Poslingford. It is not known whether he practiced as a lawyer because after his call to the bar the Gray's Inn records do not mention him again and he died in 1659, the administration of his goods being granted 26 May to Thomas Dent, the administration act book describing both Golding and Dent as "of Gray's Inn."
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Thomas II “of Poslingford” Golding was born about 1560 in Poslingford, Suffolk and he died after 1577 because he is named in the 1577 Visitation of Suffolk. Thomas Golding, the son of George Golding married three (3) times and his first wife was Frances Gill, born about 1510. They were married about 1559 in Suffolk and she was the mother of all of his children. His second wife was Mary Barnardiston and they were married about 1589 in Suffolk. He married a third time to Susan Crimble, but not much is known about her.
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Thomas Golding’s children with Frances Gill were Henry, Thomas, Elizabeth and Frances. All of these children are named in the 1577 Visitation of Suffolk.
Henry “of Letcombe Regis” Golding – Henry may have moved from Suffolk to Letcombe Regis, Berkshire. He was born about 1602 and he died in 1662. This information is uncertain, however.
Thomas Golding – Thomas was born in 1582 and nothing more is known about him.
Elizabeth Golding – Elizabeth was born in 1584 in Poslingford, Suffolk and nothing more is known about her.
Frances Golding – She was born in 1586 in Poslingford, Suffolk. (Lea, 1902)
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The Wills of Robert Goldinge of Belchampe and James Bacon of London
The Will of Robert Goldinge of Belchampe (Lea, 1902, pp 17-18) - Will of Robert Goldinge of Water Belchampe, County Essex. Dated 11 March 1591-2.
To wife Elizabeth 100 li. and all household stuff was her late husband's and 1 li. yearly and best piece of plate. To son Francis 100 li. at 21 and same to my sons Josias and Peter at said ages.
To daus. Sarae and Marie Goldinge 60 li. apiece at ages of 20 or marriage. To sons Robert, Israel, William and Richard 100 li. apiece at 21.
To my dau. Margerie 60 li. at 20 or marriage, if she die to be divided between my daus.
Elizabeth, wife of John Ogles, and Rachel, wife of Hughe Johnson. To Joane Brymeley my mother, 40s. yearly during the term I have of Belchampe Hall, if she happen so long to live. To "William Buckley, my servant, 40s. To Thomas Buckley ^208. To Thomas Warde, my servant, 10s. To John Potter and Thomas Pannell, my servants, 3s. 4d. apiece. To Allen Graves and Robert Haxall, my boys, Ss. 4d. apiece. To Edward Bradley my servant, 20s. To Barbara, my maid servant, 10s. To Grace Ruste, my servant, 6s. 8d. To Agnes Fyrmyn, os. 4d. To Amies Jack- son, 20d.
To John Golding, my son, the bedstead whereon I now lie.
To Roger Goldinge, my son, a feather bed. To Peter my son a feather bed with 5 silver spoons. Executors : — William Bragg of Bullmer, yeoman, and Richard Goldinge of Aucton, my brother. Witn : John Brymeley and Richard Astley. Codicil of 11 March 1591-2, bequeathing to son Edward Goldinge, being about 12 years of age, 100 li. at 21 ; Roger Golding, another son, to have the keeping of said 100 li. and the bringing up of said Edward and if said Edward at his age of 21 should not become of such discretion and government to govern himself, the 100 li. should then remain to the said Roger, charged to the maintenance of his said brother. Witn : as above. Proved 1 July 1592 by the Exoi-s named. Confirmed by Definitive Sentence of Easter Term 1593.
P. C. C, Harrington, 61.
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Will of James Bacon, citizen and fishmonger of London. Dated 22 April 1573. I late purchased of Richard Brittein keye called Dice Keye in Parish of St. Dunstan's in the East, London, for 900 li, of which 450 li is paid to said Richard, the remaining 450 li to be paid after death of Elizabeth Gascoyne, mother of the said Richard Brittein, to whom, during her life, 50 li. to be paid yearly ; the said 450 li to be raised from my property & placed in hands of Anne, my wife, for discharge of said debt.
Should my wife die, then to go to my friend William Webb, citizen and Salter of London. Of remaining property I give one third to Anne my wife, one third to my two sons James and William Bacon and one third in legacies as follow? : — Gowns to 20 poor men of the Fishmongers Company and 30 others. Black gowns to each of the followino- — Thomas Bacon mv brother in law and his wife, Sir Lyonell Duckett, knt., Lord Mayor, and the Lady his wife, Lady Barbara Champion, widow, the swordbearer Sir John White and the Lady his wife. Sir Christopher Draper and his wife. Sir Roger Jnair- ten and his wife, Mr. Recorder and his wife, Mr. Alderman Langley, Mr. Alderman Bonde and Mr. Alderman Oliff and their wives, my brother Paston and his wife, my brother John Lambert and his wife, my brother Coles and his wife, Robert Blackman, my sister Helemau, my brother William Packington and his wife, Mr. John Jackman, son of Edward Jackman, my brother Edward Pakenton, Robert Bacon, the foresaid William Webb and his wife, my sister Amy Hill, widow, my brother Williamson and his wife, Michael Goldstone and his wife, my daughter Tyrell, and my household servants, Robert Goldestone and his wife, Oliver Goldstone and his wife if he have not any at time of my decease, Helen Flowerdale, widow, my son Ryvett and his wife, Thomas Bankes and his wife, Thomas Sharpe, my cousin Cockes in Lumbardstrete and his wife, Mr. John Cooper and his wife, my neighboure Pyrowe Cottie, George Lordinge, clerk of the fishmongers' Com., the deputies of my ward and the bedell of my warde, the GOODMAN GOLDINGE of Hornechurche, County Essex and his wife, Humfrey Bawdrick and his wife, William Ashebolde, M.A., and Thomas Cattell, curate of St. Dunstan's in the East. To the following money for rings: — My Lord Keeper^ and his wife, my cousin Nicholas Bacon my lord's eldest son and his wife, my cousin Woodhouse and his wife, my cousin Windoam (?)…To poor at gate of house where I now dwell & in psh of St. Dunstans in the East, to preachers for sermons in St. Peters and St. Dunstans. to GOODMAN GOLDING of Hornchurch and his wife and Mary their maiden, Robert Hole- man at age, my cousin Cockes and his wife, Robert Blackman & my poor kinsfolk above named. Res. Legs, sons James and William. Exors : wife Anne and son James. Supervisors : my son Ryvett, brother Cole, and William Webb. To Henry Jaye 3 li. Vds. 8d. Witn : Willm Webbe, William Ashebolde, Thoms. Cattell, Georgio Lordinge…. (Lea, 1902, p. 24-25)
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References
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Lea, J. H.-1. (1902). Gosnold and Bacon: The Ancestry of Bartholomew Gosnold. Boston, Massachusetts: David Clapp & Son. Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/gosnoldbaconance00leaj
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The Earls of Kent. (n.d.). Retrieved from bedarchives: http://bedsarchives.bedford.gov.uk/CommunityArchives/Silsoe/TheEarlsOfKent.aspx
In the summer of 2017 Otley Hall was actually for sale for 2.5 million pounds. Pictures of the interior can be seen in this article published in the online edition of the East Anglian Daily Times.
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The pictures were a unique opportunity to see inside one of the historic properties of England and the place where much of the planning for the creation of the Virginia Company took place.